Part 4 Saptarishis Astrology Interviews Suresh Chandra Mishra
We have a followup question. Regarding birth of twins, we have seen time difference of 25 minutes. Both might not necessarily have birth mark on same body part. So, in that case, how to rectify the chartsé One such case came to me in year 20032004, that lady was astrology lover, my son was studying medical sciences there. I was invited there, so, she showed me her daughter's kundali to me, it was cases of twins, with a twin brother. I remember date but for that Lagna, it had Capricorn navamsa, with possibly Taurus lagna. That girl was fairskinned. Twin brother, they told me was born 2 minutes later. I predicted he must be of wheatish face complexion. Mother and the girl were both fairskinned and even father had fair complexion. They asked me how did I knowé She had studied astrology from Bhartiya vidya Bhavan and was in Bangalore, same place where my son had gone for his education. I told her that it's decided from Navamsa. Navamsa changes face complexion. He had Aquarius navamsa. Aquarius gives wheatish complexion while Capricon navamsa is bright, reflecting. Why do you see anything as blacké Anything appears transparent because rays can cross that material and return back to eyes. If anything stops light from getting through, that will appear dark. Aquarius's sign is of a person carrying empty pot. So, Aquarius has wheatish complexion. Then, that boy came there in few minutes, he was wheatish only. They asked me how. I told them to use the 'chandra samek navamsa varnah' rule and one can find out. Complexion itself tells you, no need to even check for birth marks. There's one chapter 'Vishesh lagnadhyay' meaning special ascendants. He said special ascendants can help in such complex cases.
One is Bhava Lagna, then Hora lagna, after that Ghati lagna, after that Vighati lagna Pal lagna. Bhava lagna changes in 2 hours, ghati lagna in 24 minutes, Hora lagna in 1 hour, vighati lagna in 2 minutes (5 Pal). and it is same order in which the sun is moving. On sunrise, lagna has same degree as what the sun is having since both are exactly at eastern horizon. For 24 hours, we divide them in 12 rashis. so, 2 hour per rashi which is called Bhava lagna. For Hora lagna which is of 1 hour, we say we have 24 hora lagna in 24 hrs then. 60 ghati lagna in 24 hrs. Vighati lagna is of 2 minutes i.e 30 vighati lagnas in 1 hour, 720 vighati lagnas in a day. So, on the basis of vighati lagna, we can differentiate betweeen the twins. Vighati lagna and Ghati lagna need to evaluated in same way as basic lagna. Then, vighati lagna will be considered as native's birth lagna. Can we treat it in this way that for analyzing twins horoscopes. First thing is if Navamsa are different then we are contended. Navamsa changes in about 1215 minutes. If Navamsa is same, then look for ghati lagna. If Ghati lagna is also same, then check vighati lagna. If, unfortunately, vighati lagna is also same; It changes in 2 minutes. If difference in time of twins is of 1 minute, then what should we doé
For that Parashar ji wrote, check the shashtiamsa chart(D60). Consider that as the birth chart of the native. D60 changes in 1 minute. so, we can go to this level. Less than 1 minute of difference can not be between twins. So, everything has been set systematically. If we keep on moving on the path shown by Shashtra, then all things will become easy. As soon we go astray, we will be lost. If we have highway(freeway) in front of us, why not use ité And Parashar has said that from Shashtiamsa(D60) we can look at all aspects. Righté Yes, if needed, you can look at everything from the Shashtiamsa(D60). As and when required. And when did the need ariseé since we were not to differentiate between the twins charts; Since those twins are two separate identities. How will you out lagna for two then. It came up as challenge in Jyotish. Therefore, he wrote it very carefully that look for everything from Shashtiamsa. That can be used as lagna chart for predicting results. After thinking all aspects, all ifs and buts, Rishis have decided these rules. It's we who are not able to remember them recall them understand their applications. This is what causes all dilemmas, otherwise there is no shortcoming in Shashtras. Mishra ji, we have talked about who is the right candidate for teaching jyotish. If we talk further on this, then there are some people who study for some time and leave, some only research, some are very good at predicting.
Some contribute their life in publishing, then there are those also who have done everything in Jyotish. Please tell us the combinations (related to astrology) for predictionsresearchpublishingé Basically, those who are born in malefic rashi lagna, they have inclination towards astrology; which is sun's lagna, mars' lagna, Shani's lagna and malefic mercury's lagna. Mercury is considered malefic when it is posited with malefics. In that case, Gemini and Virgo lagna people also show inclinations towards jyotish So, Aries lagna, Gemini lagna (conditionally), Cancer and Leo lagna, Virgo lagna (conditionally), Libra lagna if involves some specific combinations and aquarius lagna primarily these show inclination towards jyotish. So basically lagna of malefic planets, malefic mercury, Sun and moon rashi lagna. It must have combinations of malefic planets. For planetary positions, it was clearly said 1, 5, 9 and 12. If these houses, directly or strongly, have connection of natural malefics, then those will some good work in Jyotish. The more malefic effect on these houses. So, mars, saturn and rahu are impacting these houses, then these will do concrete work in astrology. They are good mathematician also, and good in Phalit too. Parahar ji specifically wrote about upagrahas, we have 2 upagrahas Dhoom and Gulika. If Dhoom is placed in these houses (1,5,9,12), then these people also show inclination and contribute in jyotish. He stressed even more on Gulika, that if Gulika Or Gulika house lord or Gulika navamsa lord is placedconnected to these houses (1,5,9,12), then those will have good contribution towards jyotish.
Then, it was seen from Atmakaraka and Amatyakaraka also. If VenusJupiter is the Atmakaraka and with them, there is connection of malefics in Navamsa kundali, then they also become good astrologers. Karakamasa kundli is same as Navamsa kundali. Some people are confused on this. I will explain that later, but in Navamsa kundali, if there is connection of VenusJupiter(as Atmakaraka) with malefics, then those become good astrologers. If you want you can use some examples and find out. Ok. This you have talked about mathematics and Phalit, bothé Yes, because you can't do phalit with mathematics. Pundits in temple can also do Phalit. In India, every nook and corner, you will find vaidya (ayurvedictraditional s) and Jyotish, in big numbers. As they say that when a ball is hit in the playground, it lands in the house of Vaidya or Jyotish only, so many of them we have. I am not talking about astrologers of these kinds but those who have done considerable contribution to Jyotish. I am talking about those who have changed things, who are Agrade astrologers. In this context, if we look at kundali of Mr. Surya Narayan Rao, let's discuss that.
The lagna of a malefic is not here but it has a very clearcut and powerful combination. 1st house doesn't have any malefic, 5th house has Mars, 9th doesnt' have malefic but 12th has mercury with Rahu. Is it mercuryé 12th has Rahu and Gulika. Ok. 12th has Rahu. So, here 5th has mars and 12th has rahu which completes the preliminary combination. Secondly, if we see Gulika, it is 12th house, Gulika is an extreme malefic upagraha. Gulika's rashi lord i.e. Aries lord, mars is in 5th house. So, Mars also being Gulika's rashi lord becomes double malefic in 5th house. Gulika's Navamsa lord is Venus which is 9th. Venus will also be treated as malefic being Gulika's navamsa lord. 5,9 and 12 houses, we see a clearcut combination here. One additional thing needed to be said here, in this chart, Mars is also atmakaraka, which is also connected to Gulika and is also vargottama. It makes it such a kundali that he was sure to be milestone in whichever field he chose. Such a kundali whose work will be long remembered. I understand he started an astrological magazine and which is still coming out. I guess his grand children are still working for that. If we look at chart of B.V.Raman, his major contribution in astrology was through publications. How to look at this publishing angle in his charté
Part 7 Saptarishis Astrology Interviews Suresh Chandra Mishra
Mishra ji, there was a mention of Shadbala earlier. We also have a question about that. Should we consider Shadbala, in totality or ishta kashta é Which specific bala (strength) is most importanté First of all, Shadbala and ishta kashta are two different things. You don't really need to find out ishta kashta as it's useless for you. It's not mentioned in classics but was later inserted into them. In old times, they used to write Jaatak Paddhati where house kashta, bala was calculated. Parsharji wrote about it precisely, in start but later it was elaborated also. In Shadbala, he gives example that one leader who is a great minister VS a leader who doesn't have any portfolio. If they come to you together, who will be more importanté Obviously, the one with higher position. So, sthan bala(positional strength) is the most important bala among all. If a planet doesn't have positional strength but has other strengths, then it's powerless. If planet has positional strength then despite not have other strengths, it will be powerful. Most important is positional strength. Parashar ji described it by saying 'Shubh panchak' and 'bhadra panchak' which are synonymous. Shubha panchak means planet either in exalted mooltrikona own sign friendly neutral position this is strength in declining order. In Exalted, it has 100% strength, while in own sign, it's 50%, neutal 25%. Panchak refers to 5 different positions. If a planet is in neutral position, while having other bala(strength) like kala bala, drik bala, then it will not be much useful. Most important is positional strength. Regarding luminaries, for moon it was said that paksha bala(waxingwaning) is most important. For sun, ayan bala is most important i.e. when in uttarayan it is powerful even when in neutral or enemy signs.
For luminaries, additional parameter was added. Another additional parameter is of retrogression. If Nonluminary planets (other than sun and moon) are retrograde, it gives them additional strength. This additional strength makes the planet powerful. All these percentages and graphs, kala bala and all don't really give effective results. You can understand it for your satisfaction. If only sun and moon have ayan bala and paksha bala resp. and if they also get positional strength and are in 'shubh panchak' then other planets won't really matter. Based on sun and moon's strength itself, person will reach good heights. That is the practical approach. Next thing was use of retrogression. While doing the age calculations, when we find out the contribution of individual planets towards native's age, then for the planets sitting in enemy sign, subtract the one third from planet's contribution to age. For retrograde planets, it was said don't subtract onethird, keep it as is. So, retrograde planet is strong. At another place, it was said for exalted planets and retrograde planets, contribution of planet towards age should be tripled. For example, if a planet was allocated 10 years in normal scenario, then if the planet gets retrograde, 30 years should be considered. Either exalted OR retrograde in both the cases. This retrogression strengthens the life span. It will not reduce life span even after being posited in enemy sign. As an astrologer, that will be practical approach. Going into Shadbala bars and graphs will not lead to very effective results. What the next questioné We have a followup question on this. If a planet gets debilitated in rashi chart but gets exalted vargottama in navamsa, then how to look at thaté
For Vargottama planets, age contribution of planet is doubled. So, it's a indication that being vargottama in navamsa strengthens the planet. It gives internal strength to the planet. If planet's outer appearance is shown in rashi chart, then Navamsa is its soul. So, Navamsa tells you the inner strength of the planet. Some lean weak looking people have much more strength than other people, like Bruce Lee; even other Kung fu experts also. Navamsa strength compensates for any shortcomings in rashi chart. So, you mentioned about sthan bala(positional strength). Positional strength is not the only strength. Earlier, I already explained Parashar's practical way to looking at these strengths. One more interesting thing, after having explained ashtakvargas, all rekhas, Parshar ji says . . that if any planets gets good number of rekhas in ashtakvarga, but is in debilitation, then it will void the results. What does that meané That means planet's position positional strength is the main strength among all kinds of strengths. If the foundation is not strong, then outer decorations won't make the building strong. This question is asked very frequently that planet is getting lot of bindus (points) but it's not giving results. Later on, it was added that in such case, they become useless, neutral.
Let me one add thing here on Ashtakvargas. Ashtakvargas was told to be used with transits. When planet is not proving to be favorable by any other methods but is showing to be favorable by ashtakvargas, then it should work in that planet's gochara(transit). Let's say native wants to get married in sun's gochara and it is 8th gochara. Now 8th Gochara is not allowed for marriages. Sun in 8th from natal sun of native this is not allowed for marriages. But if we marriage dates as constraint like for Nonresident Indians (NRIs). NRIs often get vacations around Christmas but in December, marriages are prohibited in India. What should be done thené In such cases, ashtakvarga gets utilized. If in Ashtakvarga that planet (sun here) is strong in that rashi, even if 8th, then marriage will not auspicious then. You can go ahead. That is the correct usage of ashtakvargas. But, these days, we have started to directly use it with kundali. Only Sarva Ashtakvarga has usage in Kundali. Every Bhinna ashtakvarga doesn't need to be looked at. For sarva ashtak, it was said that that house which gets max. rekhas will prosper. Sarva ashtak means the addition of all. One of the ridiculous questions asked in exams is this what is the difference between samudaya ashtakvarga and sarva ashtakvargaé Samudaya ashtakvarga, sarva ashtakvarga , maha ashtakvarga all mean the same thing. No difference. If you are being taught that these are different, then what can I sayé You talked about application of ashtakvarga. How do we reconcile the applications of Sarva ashtakvarga as per planetary positionsé Parashar ji said that write down Sarva ashtakvarga in kundli itself. It even shows it on the first screen itself in Parashar's Light. House which has more than 25 points is great, between 25 and 19 is mediocre and below 19 it is waste. That house (less than 19 points) doesn't have internal or external or distant support.
It is because Sarva ashtakvarga is the addition of close by and distant all kind of supports to the house. You can call these points as rekhas(lines) or bindus(dots); basically it means benefic dots. Call it what you want. One more thing, if Lagna has more rekhas than 8th house, then existence is fine. Native's life will be intact. If Lagna has less rekhas while 6th has more, then native will get diseases at some points. It can be chronic or fatal depending upon other factors. If Lagna has less rekhas while 8th has more, that means there will a sense of urgency in your life. If 9th has less rekhas as compared to 10th, then you will not get results in proportion of your efforts. If 9th has less, 10th has more, 11th even more then you will work less but will get way more. You might even credit for things you don't do. The highest number of rekhas in any house, that year (equal to number of rekhas) will be determiningdeciding year of native's life. Let's say maximum rekhas are there in 9th house as 40 rekhas then 40th year will be a deciding year. And if in Varshaphala for that year, you see favorable results then it can be really good year. If showing bad results, then it can even cause accidents, diseases or some other problem. The number of rekhas in Lagna will changefix your life directions. Let's say native has 30 rekhas in lagna then native won't settle before 30 years of age. It will make native fix his direction, settle mentally on what heshe wants, waveringdoubts will go away. This might happen after than age or in that age. Since, it's not clearly specified. We can say in that year OR after that year, it might happen. If native says I am already working, then native will get comfortable after that age. If native is already comfortable, then heshe will reach higher positions after that age. That's how to use Samudaya ashtakvarga. Coming to Bhinna ashtakvarga, if someone says I have 1 point for Saturn in some house, would that mean that in every 30 years there will be a very bad time in his life éé No. That's not the way to use it.
Can we extend what you said about lagna to other houses alsoé The More the number of rekhas, the better it is for that house. But, even those numbers are indicative. Highest number of rekhas, which ever house it is falling in, be it lagna, 6th, 8th anywhere, that year will be deciding year. We will corelate that number with dasha and other combinations to find out whether it will good or bad for the native. Number of rekhas in Lagna will cause promotiondemotionswitch job . something related to native getting settledfixing his life directions. But, there's one more interesting thing that was told which is not right to say in this era, though. If lagna has same or lesser number of rekhas as compared to 7th house, then married life is not good. Since 7th house is of others, opponents, opposite sex, rivals. 7th rekhas being lesser than lagna means less rivalry, less opposition. Be it married life or any sort of partnership. In case of equal, it means equally strong opposition. Native will define areas or territories with the opposition, then only native can survive. If native does partnerships, business won't succeed because there will be competition with your partner only. Neither will submit to other. Situation of agreement won't be reached. Native gets problems in all kind of partnerships including marriage. So, the number of rekhas in 7th house, is that also indicative of somethingé Does that number indicate any significant partnershipsé Business partnerships are checked from 4th. But yes, less number of rekhas in 7th means few enemies. It won't tell you the marriage year no, not that thing. It does not work that way.